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Post  trev crane Tue 07 Jun 2022, 8:22 pm

Hi all,

A simple question I'm hoping someone can answer, I have test fitted the fly wheel to my DCC.
When I refitted the rear wheel the clearance between fly wheel & wheel is zero.
With the key to the flywheel/crankshaft removed, to rotate the fly wheel.
There's enough contact to turn the rear wheel when rotating the fly wheel by hand.
Fly wheel issue. 52130299645_94d582cf0c_z20220603_143917 by Trev Read, on Flickr
The key is in the picture just to test fit it.

Could someone give me an idea of the sort of clearance should be between the two.
I believe it is close but not this close.

I'm going to measure the center line of the cylinder block, and compare it to the center of the crank shaft.
To see how they match up horizontally, in case the crank bearings are too low.

Thanks in advance.
Trev.
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Post  elwood-59 Tue 07 Jun 2022, 8:52 pm

Hi Trev,

there is definitely something wrong here. On Pied Piper there is about  5 to 10 mm clearance between flywheel boss and wheel. It is tight but definitely not as small or non existent as on your engine. Will measure tomorrow to give you the exact dimension if you need it.

What surprises me is that the distance between axle and crankshaft bearing is set and fixed by the horn plate resp the mounting faces thereof. The only idea I have is that the rubber coating on the rim is thicker than it should be.

Might be good to check with STW.

Cheers

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Post  trev crane Thu 09 Jun 2022, 9:40 am

Hi Elwood,

Thanks for your info, I'll give STW a call today.

There was an issue with this horn plate being warped/curved, this was straightened and corrected by STW.
Not sure if something else is going on with it.

Regards

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Post  Lynn@STW Thu 09 Jun 2022, 10:24 am

Hi Trev

Thanks for calling to support. I will do my very best to assist you in finding the issue and getting you back on track so to speak.

As a note for readers. I have supplied Trev with some "landmark" measurements and design sizes so hopefully we can find the "oopsie" quickly.

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Post  trev crane Tue 14 Jun 2022, 8:07 pm

Hi,

Big thanks to Lynn & STW for the help and assistance with my fly wheel issue.

I have reset the position of the L/H crank bearing and now have about 5mm clearance.
Fly wheel issue. 52146743238_18203267f1_z20220611_151941 by Trev Read, on Flickr
It looks closer in the picture, but there is just 5mm there.

Thanks again for the help & assistance.

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Post  Nigel Wed 15 Jun 2022, 9:41 pm

Hi

Can we have the measurements please, would like to check mine before I get too far, main dimension would be the distance between the centre of crank and axle.

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Post  trev crane Thu 16 Jun 2022, 7:46 am

Hi Nigel,

I'll measure it tonight & post.

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Post  trev crane Thu 16 Jun 2022, 7:01 pm

Hi,

As requested I have measured the distance from the rear axle center to the crank shaft center.

It's 400.5mm on my DCC.
This measurement comes from:
Rear wheel dia; 736mm half of which is 368mm
Plus from the rear tyre (outside face) to the center of the crank shaft 32.5mm

I would say 1 or 2mm each way and all should be OK.

As I said previously, the clearance on my engine is just under 5mm.
Hope this all makes sense and helps other builders.

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Post  Nigel Thu 16 Jun 2022, 8:33 pm

Hi Trev

Thanks for this, checked mine all ok, thanks for your help.

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Post  Steve Traill Fri 08 Jul 2022, 4:42 pm

That gap is about right, on a muddy Rally field the flywheel picks up mud! Don't bother painting the centre hub, it'll only get scratched to pieces. A light rub with an oily rag keeps it rust free.
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Post  trev crane Sun 10 Jul 2022, 8:04 am

Thanks for the reply Steve.

Unfortunately It's already had 2 coats of etching primer, 2 coats of primer and first coat of crimson.

We'll see how we go once it's running.

Fly wheel issue. 52205918751_0b5fe8d5e1_z20220701_141611 by Trev Read, on Flickr

Haven't got a pic of it in crimson.

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