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Post  trev crane Sun 31 Jul 2022, 8:40 am

Hi all,

I have fitted the boiler water gauge to my DCC, however what I cant fit is the drain pipe.
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What have previous builders done to resolve this.
I'm thinking I'll make 2 brass extension parts to bring the Gauge glass out by 20mm.
One for the top fitting & one for the bottom fitting.
Boiler water gauge fitting  52251992542_d3fec1e2d8_z20220716_113413 by Trev Read, on Flickr
This will then clear the rear axle oil box to allow the drain pipe to fit better.

I haven't got the reverser kit yet so not sure if this idea will interfere with it.
If someone could have a look that would be marvellous Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy
Thanks in advance.

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Post  elwood-59 Sun 31 Jul 2022, 9:43 am

Hi Trev,

When building Pied Piper I had the same issue. In order to fit the drain pipe I made a small cut into the axle box cover to have room for a down over and out bend. If you plan to stick with original design this might not work for you.

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Mind you I had planned to change the axle oiler box to external oiling pot long before that, so that was no issue for me. At that time I had seen the version of Lynn and others with this remote oiler pot mod, and found it to be a clever idea.

Hope this helps

Cheers

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Post  Simon C Sun 31 Jul 2022, 12:23 pm

Hi Trev
I cut 1/2 inch from the top of the right hand axle box.
The box holds about 3 years worth of oil in one go so reducing the height won't cause a problem
I had considered putting a hole in the lid as Elwood suggested but if the gauge glass or its fittings leak the water will get into the box and contaminate your oil.
It was an absolute bear to remove the box so I used cap head screws when I replaced it.
The cap heads with a ball end key made putting it back a lot easier.
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Post  trev crane Mon 01 Aug 2022, 7:40 am

Hi,

Thanks for the reply's guys.

I did consider modifying the axle lub box, but with it in position & I used JB weld just to make sure it didn't leak around the lub pipe.
I didn't want to attempt it...
I also considered making an elbow fitting to screw onto the drain valve and then screw the drain pipe to that.
But I didn't have the correct taps & dies. (need to order a set)

I have ordered some 7/8" brass round bar, to make some spacer fittings.
I already have the correct taps & dies for the threads.
Shouldn't take long to make  two 20mm spacers.
Hopefully it wont interfere with the reversing leaver.

I'll report back once I've made some swarf...

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Post  Capricorn1 Tue 02 Aug 2022, 9:22 pm

There is no need to secure the axle-box oil pot with any adhesive as there is an o-ring between it and the axle-box. Likewise there is no need to fill it up with oil to the brim, a teaspoon-full will last a week. There is no need to butcher the oil pot lid to fit the gauge glass blowdown pipe - email STW and request the elbow fitting.

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Post  trev crane Wed 03 Aug 2022, 10:42 am

Capricorn1 wrote:There is no need to secure the axle-box oil pot with any adhesive as there is an o-ring between it and the axle-box. Likewise there is no need to fill it up with oil to the brim, a teaspoon-full will last a week. There is no need to butcher the oil pot lid to fit the gauge glass blowdown pipe - email STW and request the elbow fitting.

Thanks Capricorn1, If I the adaptors I'll be making don't work I'll give STW a call about the elbow.

The material I have order for this should be delivered today.
So I'll make the adaptor pieces over the weekend.

I'll post pictures (as long as it work out OK Embarassed )

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Post  trev crane Sat 06 Aug 2022, 7:42 am

Hi all,

Well material I ordered was waiting for me when I got in from work Wednesday.

This was the result by Friday...
Boiler water gauge fitting  52266474243_72631f8cd6_z20220806_071410 by Trev Read, on Flickr
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I'm very happy with the result Very Happy Very Happy
Looking at builders photos on this forum, I don't think the reverser will interfere with the operation of either the gauge glass or the reverser.

Happy Building
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Post  Burrell_in_Sussex Mon 08 Aug 2022, 10:09 am

Trev, you shouldn't really be using brass for the adaptors. Brass fittings below the water line will deteriorate and weaken over time due to dezincification. Bronze or gun metal would be a better option.

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Post  trev crane Mon 08 Aug 2022, 10:24 am

Burrell_in_Sussex wrote:Trev, you shouldn't really be using brass for the adaptors. Brass fittings below the water line will deteriorate and weaken over time due to dezincification. Bronze or gun metal would be a better option.

OK, thanks for the advice.
I'll order some Bronze or Gun metal and remake them.

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Post  Thunderbolt Fri 12 Aug 2022, 1:04 pm

For my engine i made a right angle part which screwed on the bottom of the drain block Boiler water gauge fitting  Cc778610
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Post  trev crane Sun 14 Aug 2022, 8:16 am

Hi All,
As per Burrell_in_Sussex advice, I got a 6" x 1" dia bit of LG2 Leaded Bronze.
To replace the brass spacers I had made, not knowing it wasn't the correct material.

First one finished.
Boiler water gauge fitting  52284594524_d06ff6ae96_z20220813_131058 by Trev Read, on Flickr
And swarf
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Installed.
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It was getting too hot to in the work shop to make the second one, that's todays job. Before it gets to warm.

Happy building all.
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Post  Capricorn1 Tue 16 Aug 2022, 9:19 am

Have you considered the fact that extending the water gauges stalks will alter the water level in the gauge glass when the engine is not on level ground? The elbow / right angle fitting that Thunderbolt made and fitted are available from STW to allow the blow down pipe to clear the oil pot.

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Post  Nigel Tue 16 Aug 2022, 10:03 am

Hi, Do we have a part number for the Right Angle/Elbow joint think I will need one for my build when I get to that bit please.

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