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Post  milford59 Wed 11 Dec 2019, 9:14 am

I am now building the front wheels - is there any reason to wait for the front axle to arrive BEFORE gluing the hubs ? Are there any crucial tolerances that could not be fixed if I have already glued the hubs ? Thanks very much - all wheel building tips and tricks are welcome !!

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Post  lynnr Thu 12 Dec 2019, 2:39 pm

Hi

As long as the bushings are in and the hub plates are centred you will not have any problem.
I left my bushings slightly out and centred up the plates.

Watch the thickness of the paint as this can bind up on the axle shoulder.
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Post  milford59 Thu 12 Dec 2019, 2:59 pm

Thank you very much for that info.

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Post  Steve Traill Sun 15 Dec 2019, 2:30 pm

Personally I would wait until I had the axle, I made the mistake of just loctiting a set of bushes in once and then found the tolerance allowed one to be slightly twisted to the other. After that I would loctite the bushes and immediately fit the shaft to line up the bushes in the outer hub while the loctite went off.
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Post  milford59 Mon 16 Dec 2019, 1:33 pm

Thanks Steve - I had already stuck one outer bush into a wheel — I will now wait till I get the axle to be certain that it all fits, before fitting and loctiting the other 3- I appreciate both replies . Thanks.

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Post  milford59 Sun 22 Dec 2019, 9:40 am

OK - I received the front axle and all bushes are now in. Thanks for the advice.

Regarding the 6mm pins that go through the retaining collars - I have found that they are a fraction off vertical when the axle is on, so they rub against the edge of the hub and cannot be hammered in. My plan is to use a suitable diameter stainless steel split pin to retain the wheels - it will be hidden under the outer cover anyway.

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Post  Simon C Sun 22 Dec 2019, 2:56 pm

milford59 wrote:OK - I received the front axle and all bushes are now in. Thanks for the advice.

Regarding the 6mm pins that go through the retaining collars - I have found that they are a fraction off vertical when the axle is on, so they rub against the edge of the hub and cannot be hammered in. My plan is to use a suitable diameter stainless steel split pin to retain the wheels - it will be hidden under the outer cover anyway.

The retaining pin is held in place by the outer cover so not enough room to accommodate the head of a split pin.
I encountered the same problem with my showman's and the solution was to file a flat on the inside edge of the supplied retaining pin, and file a little off the collars on the wheel side.
I also pop marked all the parts so they always get fitted/oriented as a set.
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Post  milford59 Sun 22 Dec 2019, 7:04 pm

Simon C wrote:
milford59 wrote:OK - I received the front axle and all bushes are now in. Thanks for the advice.

Regarding the 6mm pins that go through the retaining collars - I have found that they are a fraction off vertical when the axle is on, so they rub against the edge of the hub and cannot be hammered in. My plan is to use a suitable diameter stainless steel split pin to retain the wheels - it will be hidden under the outer cover anyway.

The retaining pin is held in place by the outer cover so not enough room to accommodate the head of a split pin.
I encountered the same problem with my showman's and the solution was to file a flat on the inside edge of the supplied retaining pin, and file a little off the collars on the wheel side.
I also pop marked all the parts so they always get fitted/oriented as a set.
Simon C

Thanks Simon - I hadn’t realised that - your plan sounds like the way to go.

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Post  milford59 Mon 10 Feb 2020, 7:22 pm

Here are my wheels - now in undercoat - I will do the top coat soon, when the weather gets a bit warmer.
I managed to sort out the pins by filing a flat on them. Thanks to Simon C for that tip.

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Post  milford59 Tue 24 Nov 2020, 8:00 pm

Just adding this picture to the thread, as I have now put the topcoats on the front wheels.

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Lining still to be done - but I need to practice a bit first...

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Post  milford59 Sat 21 Aug 2021, 12:02 pm

Here are the front wheels after I lined them - they need some varnish and then they will be mounted on the front axle….

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