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future products
Hi guys
We are currently thinking about what the next new product should be, a few ideas have been tossed around so far, 4"stone crusher, 4" ploughing engine, 2" lorry, something other than another Burrell, there was even talk of doing something other than a traction engine, like a model boat of some description, or an early loco like the Rocket. What would you guys like to see most?
Thanks
Will@STW
We are currently thinking about what the next new product should be, a few ideas have been tossed around so far, 4"stone crusher, 4" ploughing engine, 2" lorry, something other than another Burrell, there was even talk of doing something other than a traction engine, like a model boat of some description, or an early loco like the Rocket. What would you guys like to see most?
Thanks
Will@STW
Will@STW- Number of posts : 196
Age : 26
Location : Daventry
Registration date : 2019-01-29
Re: future products
4" ploughing engine gets my vote Will.
However have you considered living vans as a possible future project.
However have you considered living vans as a possible future project.
Simon C- Number of posts : 303
Location : Derby
Registration date : 2017-07-07
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Simon C wrote:4" ploughing engine gets my vote Will.
However have you considered living vans as a possible future project.
Hi Simon
I have and already have a lot of the design for one, using the existing agricultural wagon chassis and just changing the body.
The living van on its own
And what it would look like behind the roller
Of course we could also do a showmans van if there was enough interest, so the question is how many orders can we get for either living van?
Thanks
Will@STW
Will@STW- Number of posts : 196
Age : 26
Location : Daventry
Registration date : 2019-01-29
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How about one of these?
Would go nicely behind a showman's or a road loco.
Lift up roof so it can be used to hide extra coal and water inside.
Would go nicely behind a showman's or a road loco.
Lift up roof so it can be used to hide extra coal and water inside.
Simon C- Number of posts : 303
Location : Derby
Registration date : 2017-07-07
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Living Van ,would get my vote
Steve H
Steve H
Steve H- Number of posts : 189
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Midwest Steam- Number of posts : 136
Location : MO, USA
Registration date : 2018-09-19
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Yah, a living van would certainly be on my bucket list for Lord Darby.
Kiwiconnection- Number of posts : 135
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A 4" ploughing engine is HUGE
Mark the spark- Number of posts : 389
Location : Edinburgh
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4" ploughing engine gets my vote!
The other idea I would absolutely love to see is a different small but full size car.
A small 2 seater but with a layout more like a Stanley Model K rather than a Locomobile. The costs could be kept low by providing the kit in the simplest form - so the owners can fit what ever lamps/lights they wish.
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The other idea I would absolutely love to see is a different small but full size car.
A small 2 seater but with a layout more like a Stanley Model K rather than a Locomobile. The costs could be kept low by providing the kit in the simplest form - so the owners can fit what ever lamps/lights they wish.
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TheFodenBrothers- Number of posts : 40
Location : Cheltenham
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Another Car!
Yes, I agree - another small car would get my vote!! After all such a lot of development has gone into the new Lyka boiler surely this is halfway there to achieve something along the lines of the photo above!!
Greg
Greg
Goliewogs- Number of posts : 115
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That is an interesting idea and am already thinking of how much of the lykamobile could be used in that.
Will@STW
Will@STW
Will@STW- Number of posts : 196
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Hey Will,
I spoke to Steve quite a lot about this in the past. My idea was to use the exact same set up that was in a Lika (Same boiler, burner and engine) but with my own Stanley Vanderbilt Cup Racer style body.
Me and Steve talked quite a bit about the HP output of the boiler and whether it would be 'man enough' I believe with a lightweight body, Lika engine but possibly a slightly higher output boiler or just burner unit, then this could be a cracking car!
The only main factor that had to be considered was when it came to road registering it. Like all the other models it had to be limited to a certain speed, however this is very easily overcome with a letter from STW stating that the 'safe working speed is....' rather than physically limiting it.
The benefit of a small Stanley Steamer is that im sure a LOT of the expensive components from the Lika design can be used, springs, boiler, complete engine, rear axle, front spindles etc the list goes on! all coupled with a much simpler chassis!
I for one wouldnt mind buying a kit that didnt come as standard with things like seats, headlights fittings like mirrors etc, something that I'm sure is very expensive for STW to have custom made but is something that customers might want to source themselves dependant on style, genuine old parts etc.
Would be more than wiling to help out if this was a possible avenue and that's a genuine offer. I have a CAD background in Siemens NX, PTC Creo & AutoCAD too
I spoke to Steve quite a lot about this in the past. My idea was to use the exact same set up that was in a Lika (Same boiler, burner and engine) but with my own Stanley Vanderbilt Cup Racer style body.
Me and Steve talked quite a bit about the HP output of the boiler and whether it would be 'man enough' I believe with a lightweight body, Lika engine but possibly a slightly higher output boiler or just burner unit, then this could be a cracking car!
The only main factor that had to be considered was when it came to road registering it. Like all the other models it had to be limited to a certain speed, however this is very easily overcome with a letter from STW stating that the 'safe working speed is....' rather than physically limiting it.
The benefit of a small Stanley Steamer is that im sure a LOT of the expensive components from the Lika design can be used, springs, boiler, complete engine, rear axle, front spindles etc the list goes on! all coupled with a much simpler chassis!
I for one wouldnt mind buying a kit that didnt come as standard with things like seats, headlights fittings like mirrors etc, something that I'm sure is very expensive for STW to have custom made but is something that customers might want to source themselves dependant on style, genuine old parts etc.
Would be more than wiling to help out if this was a possible avenue and that's a genuine offer. I have a CAD background in Siemens NX, PTC Creo & AutoCAD too
TheFodenBrothers- Number of posts : 40
Location : Cheltenham
Registration date : 2012-11-08
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Hi Will
I do think a 6” Aveling GND tractor would be nice, cast wheels so no wheels to build, It Would be something different on the rally field as there are not many Aveling miniatures around.
I do think a 6” Aveling GND tractor would be nice, cast wheels so no wheels to build, It Would be something different on the rally field as there are not many Aveling miniatures around.
Willsy- Number of posts : 43
Location : Cornwall
Registration date : 2014-12-15
What about......
Hi, What about a 4" scale Wallis & Stevens road roller??! Very eye catching with its sloping boiler and would probably be very easy to manufacture?!! A 6" scale would be even better as it was quite a small engine full size in any case!! (I do have a complete set of original drawings for this engine should you require to see what is feasible!! circa 1980 vintage but what the heck!!)!!.
Greg
Greg
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Another steam car would be nice, but it would soon be heavier and faster than the Likamobile and would therefore be much more difficult to register for the road.
A steam motorcycle, on the other hand, would be comparatively cheap and much easier to get registered for the road. If done right (ie. with fuel and water automatic), it could likely also be something full size engine owners would want to put on their low loader, to quickly get about on the rally field in style.
Alternatively, it could be a steam moped, like this one:
Cheaper still and simpler to build, but potentially a great project to get new, younger customers into the steam world.
A steam motorcycle, on the other hand, would be comparatively cheap and much easier to get registered for the road. If done right (ie. with fuel and water automatic), it could likely also be something full size engine owners would want to put on their low loader, to quickly get about on the rally field in style.
Alternatively, it could be a steam moped, like this one:
Cheaper still and simpler to build, but potentially a great project to get new, younger customers into the steam world.
He Who Must Not Be Blamed- Number of posts : 53
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low loader - transporter
there has been a lot of talk before by many people and many attempts how about a heavy haulage trailer in 4".
to go further could in some way make a few alternatives around the same trailer unit - extendable side boards / winch on upper platform / steerable or self steer.
could have measured a few up while at dorset
But donot build for 3 years --- just ordered my road loco so will be idea follow on (and I would love to show off with the first one !!)
to go further could in some way make a few alternatives around the same trailer unit - extendable side boards / winch on upper platform / steerable or self steer.
could have measured a few up while at dorset
But donot build for 3 years --- just ordered my road loco so will be idea follow on (and I would love to show off with the first one !!)
olly- Number of posts : 1
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New model
What about a 3" Foden lorry for the builders that don't have much workshop space but still
want something big enough to be useful but not as big as the 4.4 or 6" wonder if there's any
interest.
want something big enough to be useful but not as big as the 4.4 or 6" wonder if there's any
interest.
Vapor- Number of posts : 383
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Location : Isle of Wight (2" Burrell & 5" Duchess ex MW)
Registration date : 2008-06-18
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Any feedback from the STW team?
What are your guys(and gals) thoughts?
What are your guys(and gals) thoughts?
TheFodenBrothers- Number of posts : 40
Location : Cheltenham
Registration date : 2012-11-08
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TheFodenBrothers wrote:Any feedback from the STW team?
What are your guys(and gals) thoughts?
At the moment we are still thinking about the options, I must say we were talking about the 3 inch Foden idea yesterday, being an easy one to do as they are relatively simple, and being half the size of the 6 inch, would prove even easier still. Of course we have have the living van design, although we would also need to look into the showmans van for our showmans and road loco customers. The other ideas that are mentioned in the office more and more are the 4 inch low loader, and the 4 inch ploughing engine. We will of course give an update when we have more of a solid idea.
Thanks
Will@STW
Will@STW- Number of posts : 196
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Location : Daventry
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Cheers for the update Will. All sounds like fab ideas!
Is the small car off the table?
Might be in touch again soon about costs for a boiler and engine
Is the small car off the table?
Might be in touch again soon about costs for a boiler and engine
TheFodenBrothers- Number of posts : 40
Location : Cheltenham
Registration date : 2012-11-08
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TheFodenBrothers wrote:Cheers for the update Will. All sounds like fab ideas!
Is the small car off the table?
Might be in touch again soon about costs for a boiler and engine
Not entirely off the table, just don't think it will be any time soon, and the same for the 6" Aveling tractor, I do think at some point we will need to plug the gap left by the tractors, as it is the one simple and common engine that we haven't done yet (all the other options are a bit more complex and rare).
Thanks
Will@STW
Will@STW- Number of posts : 196
Age : 26
Location : Daventry
Registration date : 2019-01-29
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Will@STW wrote:TheFodenBrothers wrote:Any feedback from the STW team?
What are your guys(and gals) thoughts?
At the moment we are still thinking about the options, I must say we were talking about the 3 inch Foden idea yesterday, being an easy one to do as they are relatively simple, and being half the size of the 6 inch, would prove even easier still. Of course we have have the living van design, although we would also need to look into the showmans van for our showmans and road loco customers. The other ideas that are mentioned in the office more and more are the 4 inch low loader, and the 4 inch ploughing engine. We will of course give an update when we have more of a solid idea.
Thanks
Will@STW
Great minds think alike Will, what about you set up an online survey of the model options so that builders/new customers can have a vote and see what support there is for the next new build/s.
Vapor- Number of posts : 383
Age : 113
Location : Isle of Wight (2" Burrell & 5" Duchess ex MW)
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