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Post  Will@STW on Tue 01 Oct 2019, 11:40 am

Hi guys

We are currently thinking about what the next new product should be, a few ideas have been tossed around so far, 4"stone crusher, 4" ploughing engine, 2" lorry, something other than another Burrell, there was even talk of doing something other than a traction engine, like a model boat of some description, or an early loco like the Rocket. What would you guys like to see most?

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Post  Simon C on Tue 01 Oct 2019, 11:50 am

4" ploughing engine gets my vote Will.
However have you considered living vans as a possible future project.
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Post  Will@STW on Tue 01 Oct 2019, 12:06 pm

Simon C wrote:4" ploughing engine gets my vote Will.
However have you considered living vans as a possible future project.

Hi Simon

I have and already have a lot of the design for one, using the existing agricultural wagon chassis and just changing the body.

The living van on its own
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Of course we could also do a showmans van if there was enough interest, so the question is how many orders can we get for either living van?

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Post  Simon C on Tue 01 Oct 2019, 12:20 pm

How about one of these?
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Would go nicely behind a showman's or a road loco.
Lift up roof so it can be used to hide extra coal and water inside.
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Post  Steve H on Tue 01 Oct 2019, 1:53 pm

Living Van ,would get my vote
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Post  Midwest Steam on Tue 01 Oct 2019, 4:43 pm

The Ploughing engine would be neat but the living van also has my vote, even if I don’t get one Very Happy.  If the roof was hinged it opens the door for all sorts of storage for tools, bags of coal, and even a cooler for snacks and your favorite beverages. Here’s a few ideas

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Post  Kiwiconnection on Tue 01 Oct 2019, 10:15 pm

Yah, a living van would certainly be on my bucket list for Lord Darby.
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Post  Mark the spark on Tue 01 Oct 2019, 10:22 pm

A 4" ploughing engine is HUGE

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Post  TheFodenBrothers on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 11:02 am

4" ploughing engine gets my vote!

The other idea I would absolutely love to see is a different small but full size car.

A small 2 seater but with a layout more like a Stanley Model K rather than a Locomobile. The costs could be kept low by providing the kit in the simplest form - so the owners can fit what ever lamps/lights they wish.

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Post  Goliewogs on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 12:21 pm

Yes, I agree - another small car would get my vote!! After all such a lot of development has gone into the new Lyka boiler surely this is halfway there to achieve something along the lines of the photo above!!
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Post  Will@STW on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 12:39 pm

That is an interesting idea and am already thinking of how much of the lykamobile could be used in that.

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Post  TheFodenBrothers on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 12:59 pm

Hey Will,

I spoke to Steve quite a lot about this in the past. My idea was to use the exact same set up that was in a Lika (Same boiler, burner and engine) but with my own Stanley Vanderbilt Cup Racer style body.

Me and Steve talked quite a bit about the HP output of the boiler and whether it would be 'man enough' I believe with a lightweight body, Lika engine but possibly a slightly higher output boiler or just burner unit, then this could be a cracking car!

The only main factor that had to be considered was when it came to road registering it. Like all the other models it had to be limited to a certain speed, however this is very easily overcome with a letter from STW stating that the 'safe working speed is....' rather than physically limiting it.

The benefit of a small Stanley Steamer is that im sure a LOT of the expensive components from the Lika design can be used, springs, boiler, complete engine, rear axle, front spindles etc the list goes on! all coupled with a much simpler chassis!

I for one wouldnt mind buying a kit that didnt come as standard with things like seats, headlights fittings like mirrors etc, something that I'm sure is very expensive for STW to have custom made but is something that customers might want to source themselves dependant on style, genuine old parts etc.

Would be more than wiling to help out if this was a possible avenue and that's a genuine offer. I have a CAD background in Siemens NX, PTC Creo & AutoCAD too Wink

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Post  Willsy on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 1:06 pm

Hi Will
I do think a 6” Aveling GND tractor would be nice, cast wheels so no wheels to build, It Would be something different on the rally field as there are not many Aveling miniatures around.

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Post  Willsy on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 1:12 pm

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Post  Goliewogs on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 1:37 pm

Hi, What about a 4" scale Wallis & Stevens road roller??! Very eye catching with its sloping boiler and would probably be very easy to manufacture?!! A 6" scale would be even better as it was quite a small engine full size in any case!! (I do have a complete set of original drawings for this engine should you require to see what is feasible!! circa 1980 vintage but what the heck!!)!!.
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Post  Midwest Steam on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 1:45 pm

Changed my vote to the Stanley Steamer Vanderbilt Cup Racer, I would absolutely buy one.

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Post  Steve Traill on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 2:03 pm

A Foden timber tractor with cast wheels in either 4" or 6"

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Post  He Who Must Not Be Blamed on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 1:54 pm

Another steam car would be nice, but it would soon be heavier and faster than the Likamobile and would therefore be much more difficult to register for the road.

A steam motorcycle, on the other hand, would be comparatively cheap and much easier to get registered for the road. If done right (ie. with fuel and water automatic), it could likely also be something full size engine owners would want to put on their low loader, to quickly get about on the rally field in style.

Alternatively, it could be a steam moped, like this one:



Cheaper still and simpler to build, but potentially a great project to get new, younger customers into the steam world.
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Post  olly on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 9:09 am

there has been a lot of talk before by many people and many attempts how about a heavy haulage trailer in 4".
to go further could in some way make a few alternatives around the same trailer unit - extendable side boards / winch on upper platform / steerable or self steer.
could have measured a few up while at dorset
But donot build for 3 years --- just ordered my road loco so will be idea follow on (and I would love to show off with the first one !!)

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Post  Vapor on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:06 am

What about a 3" Foden lorry for the builders that don't have much workshop space but still
want something big enough to be useful but not as big as the 4.4 or 6" wonder if there's any
interest.
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Post  TheFodenBrothers on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:43 am

Any feedback from the STW team? Very Happy Very Happy

What are your guys(and gals) thoughts?

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Post  Will@STW on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:53 am

TheFodenBrothers wrote:Any feedback from the STW team? Very Happy Very Happy

What are your guys(and gals) thoughts?

At the moment we are still thinking about the options, I must say we were talking about the 3 inch Foden idea yesterday, being an easy one to do as they are relatively simple, and being half the size of the 6 inch, would prove even easier still. Of course we have have the living van design, although we would also need to look into the showmans van for our showmans and road loco customers. The other ideas that are mentioned in the office more and more are the 4 inch low loader, and the 4 inch ploughing engine. We will of course give an update when we have more of a solid idea.

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Post  TheFodenBrothers on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:56 am

Cheers for the update Will. All sounds like fab ideas!

Is the small car off the table?

Might be in touch again soon about costs for a boiler and engine Wink

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Post  Will@STW on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:25 pm

TheFodenBrothers wrote:Cheers for the update Will. All sounds like fab ideas!

Is the small car off the table?

Might be in touch again soon about costs for a boiler and engine Wink

Not entirely off the table, just don't think it will be any time soon, and the same for the 6" Aveling tractor, I do think at some point we will need to plug the gap left by the tractors, as it is the one simple and common engine that we haven't done yet (all the other options are a bit more complex and rare).

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Post  Vapor on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 1:07 pm

Will@STW wrote:
TheFodenBrothers wrote:Any feedback from the STW team? Very Happy Very Happy

What are your guys(and gals) thoughts?

At the moment we are still thinking about the options, I must say we were talking about the 3 inch Foden idea yesterday, being an easy one to do as they are relatively simple, and being half the size of the 6 inch, would prove even easier still. Of course we have have the living van design, although we would also need to look into the showmans van for our showmans and road loco customers. The other ideas that are mentioned in the office more and more are the 4 inch low loader, and the 4 inch ploughing engine. We will of course give an update when we have more of a solid idea.

Thanks

Will@STW

Great minds think alike Will, what about you set up an online survey of the model options so that builders/new customers can have a vote and see what support there is for the next new build/s.
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