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Post  Robfishman Sat 21 Jan 2012, 2:12 pm

This morning we put in the leaf springs and fitted the wheels to the Axel, certainly is taller than I had imagined. It took 3 of us to set this up for the shot and take it apart again, it’s quite heavy so for those following behind please be careful if you do the same and ensure there is plenty of hands to help!!

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4" Burrell Front End by Robert R&N, on Flickr

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4" Burrell Front End by Robert R&N, on Flickr

Also one of the rear wheel now i have removed all the masking tape.

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4" Burrell Rear Wheel by Robert R&N, on Flickr[/quote]
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Post  lynnr Sat 21 Jan 2012, 2:50 pm

Looking very crisp and neet. Nice to see some sunshine. Very windy and wet up here.
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Post  Tony King Sat 21 Jan 2012, 2:56 pm

Hi Rob,
Looks superb................ Is it my imagination? .......... Your chimney looks longer than mine!!! Is the "copper top" sitting ontop of the funnel?
Regards,
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Post  Robfishman Sat 21 Jan 2012, 3:05 pm

lynnr wrote:Looking very crisp and neet. Nice to see some sunshine. Very windy and wet up here.

Thanks Lyn

We do have some sun today, but it's also very windy with strong gusts Just come back in from the garden where we have just had a fence post go taking two panels with it. That's a job for tomorrow if the wind drops.
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Post  Robfishman Sat 21 Jan 2012, 3:12 pm

Tony King wrote:Hi Rob,
Looks superb................ Is it my imagination? .......... Your chimney looks longer than mine!!! Is the "copper top" sitting ontop of the funnel?
Regards,
Tony

Afternoon Tony, thanks for comments. Yes at the moment I have not fitted the copper top so have gained a few inches extra height. Once polished I'll get it fitted, but last time I tried fitting it I ended up taking off all the paint on the top section of the chimney so will be trying it a different way next time.

Edit ...... I've also not yet bolted the chimney to the smoke box so it's easier to handle and store, and just incase it needs to be removed later in the build to make assess easier.
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Post  lynnr Sat 21 Jan 2012, 3:20 pm

Yes

Keep the chimney off. When it comes to fitting the smokebox to the boiler you will find it easier without. Also I left mine without the wheels and stood the smokebox in the corner upside down so it sat on the chimney ring.,
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Post  Kevster Sat 21 Jan 2012, 4:22 pm

looking superb, your are making a first class job

keep it going

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Post  Robfishman Sun 22 Jan 2012, 5:08 pm

Thanks Kev, I think we are on to kit 17 next for the belly tank which we are looking forward to.
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Post  Kevster Sun 22 Jan 2012, 9:17 pm

I have just done my belly tank, if it goes together anything like mine you have nothing to fear.
It was a pleasure to put together,just take your time and get it all lined up and all should be well.

I even enjoyed all those riv bolts ,which was good cos theres lots of em!!


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Post  Robfishman Tue 07 Feb 2012, 9:19 pm

Call came in today from Isabel and belly tank on its way cheers .....great news as not much been done on the build for a while and I've started to get withdrawal symptoms.

Not a great fan of those tiny rivets having just done the bowser over Christmas, but this time it's only going together once....or that's the plan. bounce

Lynn, did you find there were any nuts worth getting welded for ease like on the bowser tank?
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Post  lynnr Wed 08 Feb 2012, 8:15 am

If you are doing the bolts so the nut is on the outside it would be worth welding as You will not need to remove the end covers to take the support brackets off. If the nuts are inside then it is not so easy as the weld point is the fillet pieces and they could move. I did not do mine as I had not thought of it at that point. Wish I had.

BUT!

Now you should have the correct brackets there is no reason to need to remove the brackets as once your tank is fitted that should be it.
Remember do not fit the pipe elbow or the inspection cover on the toolbox side as you will need to fit the balance pipe and seal the join once you have Kit 26.
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Post  Robfishman Wed 08 Feb 2012, 10:50 am

Thanks Lynn, and I'll remember that.
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Post  lynnr Wed 08 Feb 2012, 1:06 pm

Ah

Forgot to also say. Check the gap between the brackets to the hornplates before sealing everything up. I had to release my brackets and jack them out a touch to allow fitting to the hornplates.
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Post  Robfishman Wed 08 Feb 2012, 10:43 pm

Ok thanks Lynn thats a very good point as ever. I'll leave the sealing up till later In the build then as I am out of sequence with kits at the moment.
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Post  bjwlancashire Wed 08 Feb 2012, 10:58 pm

HI Rob

I better put my belly tank building experience on the forum this weekend just to add my two peneth to it. I built it slightly different to the instructions and did some preparation to the front and back panels that helped assembly no end.

Brian
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Post  Robfishman Wed 08 Feb 2012, 11:02 pm

Thanks Brian,

Courier delivered, or tried to deliver, today but I was out at the time. It must have been a new driver as they didn't leave it in the usual place so I'll pop down and collect on sat morning.

Happy days.
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Post  bjwlancashire Sun 12 Feb 2012, 12:09 am

HI Rob

Did you make a start on your belly tank yet? I am just about to post my version of belly tank assembly to add to the information on the forum. Don't be scared by it!!

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Post  Robfishman Sun 12 Feb 2012, 10:58 am

No not yet Brian, picked it up on the way in to the office yesterday. Have unpacked and Tash and I are about to check the contents and make a start.

Thanks for your post, very helpful.
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Post  Robfishman Sun 12 Feb 2012, 11:54 am

I know this sounds strange, but if anyone is by their engine with a camera I would be very grateful if the could take a photo of the hinge arrangement on the tool box. Have tried all ways but the holes won't line up and I can't get them to fit.

Edit....ignore that just looked at the solidworks 3d model and all became clear, should have gone there first Very Happy
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Post  lynnr Sun 12 Feb 2012, 12:35 pm

I had to notch the body of the box to fit.
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Post  Robfishman Sun 12 Feb 2012, 1:48 pm

Yep that was the solution, obvious when I looked at the 3d. Tash has it all together now and drilled the holes for the plate. Very Happy
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Post  bjwlancashire Sun 12 Feb 2012, 2:09 pm

Robfishman wrote:Yep that was the solution, obvious when I looked at the 3d. Tash has it all together now and drilled the holes for the plate. Very Happy

Hey Rob

How much of the build is Tash, your apprentice doing or are you the apprentice?? Laughing
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Post  Robfishman Sun 12 Feb 2012, 2:16 pm

We are both the apprentice I recon. lol!

So far she has helped with nickel plating, final assembled the front wheels and Helped with one of the rear wheels, fitted the smoke box door and provided additional hands where needed, the tool box though (including the painting) is her own little project.
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Post  lynnr Sun 12 Feb 2012, 7:59 pm

Nice that you (Tash) are getting hands on. Just need some pictures of the parts being done.
Cool Very Happy Smile

Did you have your overalls on?
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Post  Robfishman Mon 13 Feb 2012, 7:50 am

She'll be back next weekend but picks to follow.
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