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Post  lynnr on Tue 05 Dec 2017, 12:58 pm

Hi All

I do not know about all you lot but for some reason around this time of year I get itchy finger and feel I need to get building something. It might be the "Christmas" vibe or anti-vibe. Not sure which.

All the end of season jobs on Crystal are finished and she is tucked up in bed to keep warm and dry. Of course 2 year ago I had a road loco to finish.

What are you up to over the winter season? I definitely need to sort something out.
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Post  MrStationHouse on Tue 05 Dec 2017, 5:23 pm

Now then Lynn - you need more toys!

I have awaiting me the following projects

- a Norton Dominator - am replacing the old voltage regulator with a new solid state one
- Series one land rover - new rings and valve seals
-16mm Mamod engine to complete the cladding on
- Some improvements to be made to my big trailer
-Sort out the blower valve on my 3.5" black five
- Several 16mm rolling stock kits to make

oh and 324 tax returns to get out :-)

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Post  MrStationHouse on Tue 05 Dec 2017, 5:24 pm

Now then Lynn - you need more toys!

I have awaiting me the following projects

- a Norton Dominator - am replacing the old voltage regulator with a new solid state one
- Series one land rover - new rings and valve seals
-16mm Mamod engine to complete the cladding on
- Some improvements to be made to my big trailer
-Sort out the blower valve on my 3.5" black five
- Several 16mm rolling stock kits to make

oh and 324 tax returns to get out :-)

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Post  Simon C on Tue 05 Dec 2017, 9:12 pm

Hi Lynn
Nothing much happening here still need the last 2 kits for my showman's John Dennis. have been trying to get a boiler test sorted but boy is it ever a fight.
You would believe that in the present climate company's would be falling all over them selves to do work but not in this case it seems.

As for Huffy the roller, I am determined not to start that until J.D. is finished but I may crack in January once Xmas is back in the loft.
didn't make Portsmouth last weekend unfortunately due to other commitments would have liked to attend that one as an exhibitor oh well perhaps next year.
Simon C (A fellow full roofer)
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Post  LiveSteam on Sat 09 Dec 2017, 5:39 pm

All being well I should be saving Lynn's fingers from itching quite so much with a bit of a cladding refurb jobby coming her way Cool  I'm rubbish when it comes to painting Embarassed

It looks far worse in real life  Embarassed

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All boxed up ready for a little trip ooop north

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It was good to speak with you today Cool

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Post  sonick45 on Sat 09 Dec 2017, 6:22 pm

Lynn wont disappoint.  

My engine brush painted with a healthy few coats of clear to finish. Cool

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Post  LiveSteam on Sat 09 Dec 2017, 6:57 pm

Blooming heck Shocked Mind you my cladding isnt the best being that its 12yrs old and has a fair amount of age related bits to it Very Happy Very Happy

It will put the rest of the engine to shame Embarassed

Lets say my agri has a certain patina to it Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

As long as it comes back looking better than it went (not that hard Very Happy ) and better than what I could ever do it Embarassed I'll be happy Cool

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Post  lynnr on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:13 pm

Now do you want the lines to be at least consistent widths? Or do you want the wiggles and gaps the same along with the squint placements. Wink
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Post  LiveSteam on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:53 pm

Laughing Laughing

I'm sure as you are doing them they will be consistent Wink fairly sure they were done by eye last time Laughing

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Post  lynnr on Wed 13 Dec 2017, 6:30 pm


Cleaning and test priming. To see if there is any "reactive" residue.


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Post  LiveSteam on Wed 13 Dec 2017, 7:16 pm

Well they look 100% better just in the primer, did they ever make a burrell in light brown Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post  lynnr on Thu 14 Dec 2017, 11:37 am

Hi Chris

Good news. Nothing that might be left on the cleading can cause a problem for the etch primer so onward!

That's all the tin work in etch primer. Got a significant dent in the block trim plate to fettle later but that is easy.

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Post  lynnr on Fri 15 Dec 2017, 11:03 am

Hi

Outside is going white again. So I thought I will make things black inside. Well as much inside as Crystals bedroom.

First coat of black on the inside of the tins. Drying time! Yes I did the outside of the mudhole cleading as the surface under for some reason appeared rougher in the primer. So adding a extra coat on the outside allows for more rubbing down. Also it sits on the edge points so no sticking to the drying board.

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Post  lynnr on Fri 15 Dec 2017, 2:09 pm

I think I have enough lining out tape now.

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Post  lynnr on Fri 15 Dec 2017, 6:58 pm

Think this will do for the underside.


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Post  lynnr on Tue 19 Dec 2017, 11:22 am

Hi All

Bit more progress.

First top coat on. Now to watch paint dry. There is a couple specks in it but they will go at the sanding stage. Crystal makes a nice painting table.


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Post  LiveSteam on Tue 19 Dec 2017, 7:42 pm

They are looking nice, poor Crystal ...... her nice re-done roof being used as a painting table Embarassed

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Post  lynnr on Wed 20 Dec 2017, 4:18 pm

Drying time before first rub down

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Post  lynnr on Fri 22 Dec 2017, 12:03 pm

That took the shine of everything!

Flatting down ready for next colour coat.

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Post  lynnr on Fri 22 Dec 2017, 1:39 pm

Back to shiny again.

Second coat done.

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Post  LiveSteam on Fri 22 Dec 2017, 7:36 pm

Wow they are looking great, just had a thought, while you missed the opportunity for a refurb "how to" video, although the pics here give a good idea of whats involved, I recon a "how to" in lining, when you get to it would go down a treat, only if you fancied it of course ?

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Post  NorfolkModelSteam on Fri 22 Dec 2017, 9:28 pm

Hi Lynn,

All looking really good. Quick question if I may; what temperature are you spraying in the garage at? What paint are you using? Is it from rattle cans or airbrushed? The reason is ask is is thought it to cold to spray in my garage (I’m in Notfolk and it’s between 8 and 11 degrees), I started brush painting using Craftmaster paints but it took an age with getting on the 2 primer, 2 undercoat then 2 top coats. To speed the process up I’ve used spray can high build primer and looking at then doing 2 coats of a dark red primer and then brush painting 2 coats of Craftmaster Crimson Lake Coach Enamel. Any advice/guidance would be greatly appreciated.

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Post  lynnr on Fri 22 Dec 2017, 10:32 pm

Hi Greg

You live in the tropics. Today’s shooting session was at 2c. I use Imron 2k coach enamel, sprayed using a semi professional automotive style touch up gun and a 100ltr tanked compressor. I don’t need a 750ml siphon gun for the coverage required so use the 100ml gravity fed. In these working temperatures I leave the items out for about 2 hours to out gas, then bring them in to fully harden off. Being careful not to breathe on them as the moisture in the breath will haze the surface.

In 15 to 20 C the paint will reach touch dry in 4 hours and gentle handle in 8. Sanding can be vigorous after 48 hours or so.

The full list will be. Wire wheel surfaced, etch primer, 1 coat high build 2k primer, 2 or 3 coats colour, lining, 2 to 4 coats 2k clear coat. Flatting between every coat.

And before anyone comments. I do use a full respirator.

To assist with viscosity I keep all paints in the bedroom wardrobe. Then the pot of paint in use sits on top of the kitchen cupboards to keep it even warmer. It is only taken out when I am ready to mix. A lot of people make the mistake with the pressure, volume and distance they spray. My gun allows the fan shape, apature of the nozel, volume of paint feed and air pressure, all to be adjusted.

If you are getting heavy uneven “splatter” the paint might be drying before it gets to the surface. Runs are usually caused by too close or too much paint. Clouds of overspray, too high a air pressure. Lots of variation. Paints that are made for brushing don’t usually translate to spray guns very well. You need to get the thinning just right.  It is a difficult one to describe but once you get the feel it goes on well. I also adjust settings as I go as the paint is changing its properties as it ages after mixing.
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Post  Steve Traill on Sat 23 Dec 2017, 11:27 am

I agree with everything Lynn says, however the warmer you can make the environment (and dryer) the easier it is. I used an old caravan which I could get up to 30 degrees in 30 minutes with a 3kw fan heater. I'd get the temperature up, turn the heater off, spray the Craftmaster enamel after thinning up to 5% and having it warmish, then when finished spraying, turn the heater on for 30 - 40 minutes to flash off the surface of the paint so it was touch dry. This stopped any dust in the atmosphere sticking to the paint, then turn the heater off & leave for the rest of the day. When spraying with the extractor on the temperature drops fairly rapidly as all the warm air is extracted & cold air is introduced. If you don't one ends up in a fug trying to see what you're spraying.
Don't put too much paint on in one go, I tried three coats in a day only for it to crinkle up as I had created a sandwich of dry & wet paint, the surface was dry but still wet underneath & after three coats it reacted.
There is a bit of a feel to spraying which only comes with practice, if you get a run or drip forming I keep a (very) soft dry brush handy to brush it out while it's still wet, easier than sanding down a run.
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Post  lynnr on Sat 23 Dec 2017, 1:35 pm

Hi All

Making gentle but determined progress.

I am fairly happy with 2nd colour coat. Things are drying well. I should be on to colour sand tomorrow or Christmas day. The it is lining out time. The Block cleading piece is screaming out for a bit of pinstripe art in the centre under the whistle aperture.


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